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That's a well formulated debate. Thank you for your input, I am more enlightened having read it. This is not, by any means, the type of shitslinging I was referring too...
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II. What is the Philosophical Basis for a Free Market? (Blog Entry by imstellar28)
1. If you look at the definition of "social" how could social interaction be possible if both parties aren't alive?
As I wrote, that discussion is way beyond the scope of this post. It depends on what you mean by "social interaction". A chess match between Deep Blue and Kasparov comes to mind as a possible counter-example. I'll accept your asseration, though, but want to point out that you are (unnecessarily?) including all living things, not just humans. And I think it confounds other assertions, like the right to property and self-determination. If the point here is to discuss human interaction, then you really don't need to mention "living things" and a definition of social interaction.
2. I am talking in a social context, as I stated several times. Rights mean nothing outside of a social context.
That depends on who you're talking to. I personally don't believe in absolute morality, but some people do. And in their world view, rights do exist outside of human definition.
I am not talking about what is physically possible, I am talking about what is morally possible. You cannot morally (i.e. without violating another's rights) consume food that you do not own.
That assumes ownership of everything. If I walk in a forest, and eat some berries that belong to no one, whose rights have violated?
Also, the very notion of ownership implies the right to own property, which you state is a corollary of the right to life. It cannot simultaneously be a necessary condition and a consequence of the right to life. Which is it?
And this also gets back to the problem of talking about generic social interactions between living things. Clearly a chimpanzee is a member of a social group and has social interactions with others in its own group and members of other groups. But chimpanzees require no concept of ownership to survive, i.e., to exercise their right to life.
3. Self-determination, as defined in wikipedia, is the "as free choice of one’s own acts without external compulsion" which is essentially the same thing as the right to life. Thus, it cannot be a condition for the right to life as they are one in the same. If you think a person forced into slavery has the right to life, you have misunderstood my post.
Apparently so. But you define the right to life in the third paragraph of your post:It mentions nothing about self-determination, but then you later state,So, you've noted that self-determination is a necessary condition for the right to life (as opposed to part of its definition) without giving any reason. Anyone (or thing) can be coerced into all sorts of actions by others in its social group without impairing its ability to sustain its life.
4. Imagine 5 people are stranded in the desert and steve is the only one who brought water. He has one gallon. Yes, people are compelled to trade with him-but how does that make it involuntary? Steve isn't using physical force, compulsion, or coercion to make them trade with him. You are confusing what compelling means.
He's not using coercion? Are you serious? Trade me your big sun hat for some water, or you're going to die! That's not coercion?? The threat of dying is usually pretty compelling for me. That steve will not be the direct agent of my death is irrelevant - I'm still going to die if I don't give him my hat for some water.
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Some of the comments on this thread make me wonder, though, just how young are you people? Look at the last two elections for dirty politics? Try the last 53 elections. They've all had their share of nastiness. Read some of the stuff written about Adams, or Jackson, or Cleveland, etc. There's absolutely nothing new about dirty politics. If anything, the phrase is somewhat redundant.
The economy is going to take 6 years to rebuild??? How long did it take Clinton to get the economy turned around after the mess left by Bush I. How about Roosevelt during the Great depression - within 3 years nearly every economic indicator was back to 1929 levels, the notable exception being unemployment. And unemployment dropped from 25% to 9% during his first term. There is so much panic in financial markets right now that people have suspended good judgement. My personal take on it is that the stock markets are in the process of bottoming out right now. Valuations on so many companies are so low that it won't take much more before some folks notice some of the bargain stocks out there. No, that won't do too much to unfreeze the credit markets - that will have to work itself out. But it's not going to take 6 years. Lenders can't wait that long. They need to start lending at some point so they can make a living.
And as for voting for a third party candidate - well, at the national level right now, it is a waste. I may be wrong, but I think the best way to foster a truly viable third party is from the ground up. Start getting Progressives or Libertarians elected into local and state offices, then get a few in Congress, maybe a Senator or two. Then they will have enough of a base to mount a viable national campaign. Until then, I can't see how a national campaign for a party that has no members in Congress is going to work.
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What is the url of your query? It seems to work for me:
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When searching for talk posts, "intitle:XXX" does not work at all. Is that by design? (Is this worthy of a sift talk post itself?)