| You should also watch “George Carlin on Religion” |
I know it might seem like I'm exploiting Carlin's death by posting all these but this stuff really is a huge part of my life from childhood up until now. I know all this stuff by heart. Getting it on the Sift is important to me. They've been kind of hard to Sift before but now I might as well try my damndest.


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He is much better older and less cocainated...
Oh, and as for the argument that conservatives are the only warmongers and want to keep the children so they can send them to pointless wars and die, remind me: what party started the interventions in Korea, Vietnam, and Kosovo? Oh yeah, it was the Democrats. Too bad we have the long-term memory of drugged up lemmings in this country or we'd have a libertarian president by now.
By the way, I still love some of Carlin's rantings against religious stupidity and tax-exempt churches, but this one doesn't have much rationality behind it.
Nine month old fetuses are never aborted, except in extreme cases where the mother's life is gravely threatened by the impending birth. Abortions occur in the first trimester.
"Life has to be defined at conception."
No it doesn't; not if by "life" you mean individuated living personhood; not in any legal or moral sense it doesn't. Why should it? Just because you say so? I'm not convinced.
2) We created fire
3) Cheesecake
4) The internet
4) Machines
5) Music
6) Language
You wanted six? there they are.
Nine month old fetuses are never aborted, except in extreme cases where the mother's life is gravely threatened by the impending birth. Abortions occur in the first trimester.
Okay, so explain why a first trimester fetus has no rights and a third trimester fetus does. Because it "looks" more human at that point? This is where your argument that life can be defined at some subjective point between development stages is going to fall apart.
Hey! Good job of asking me a question and then being generous enough to answer it for me too!
If you return to my original post you will see that, in reply to your statement "Life has to be defined at conception" I replied:
"No it doesn't; not if by "life" you mean individuated living personhood; not in any legal or moral sense it doesn't. Why should it? Just because you say so? I'm not convinced."
So the question is both about personhood, in the legal sense, which is bestowed upon birth, and about humane medical treatment for unwanted pregnancies. Go and research what disinterested MEDICAL DOCTORS have written of the ethics around the question of abortion beyond the first trimester.