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I cant help feeling this news report is just a little biased.
cbn,liberals,bbc Why Do ALL Europeans Hate America?
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Not saying that mainstream anti-Americanism is cool.
Exactly why does the ungrateful, stupid, godless heathens of pagan, liberal, communist Europe hate their honorable and fair liberators? Why can't they stop their baseless spewing of heinous lies and misinformation and embrace the superior lifestyle and ideologies of the best country in the history of the world?
Religion has become quite the plague on anyone who is not religious in America...
The guy in middle misunderstands the idea of media enforcement, people ask about camp X ray because they give a shit about human rights abuses, and the fact that they keep on asking is because they care about human rights, not because the news plays the camp X-ray story over and over again, which they don't.
And yes what the author of uncouth nation told you is absolutely true, we don't actually hate the american government and what the american government does, we actually hate you, individual Americans, we hate you so much that we would start a war with the american public itself, if we weren't so liberal, and yes we spend ours days constantly mocking your religious beliefs because all Europeans know deep down the belief in god is stupid and pointless, and that we try to spread our liberal, godless views and gay loving ways to America by the use of the BBC.
I don't think a single video on video sift has angered me so much ever, and I need a lie down.
The whole thing is propaganda. CBN is Pat Robertson's network, so this should be viewed with that in mind.
My take is that the purpose of the report is to try to insulate Americans from viewing the European world's outrage with what we've been doing, by telling the faithful that it's just some bias that has nothing to do with our torturing people, even if that's what Europeans and their news outlets actually say.
It also serves a double purpose of implying that anyone in America who espouses those critiques of America are clearly un-American, and should be reviled and shunned.
Stellar piece of propaganda, FOX should hire the people who put it together. They've been off their game of late.
Terrible... people in Europe caring about human rights...
This video is so indicative of the psyche with which it was produced, the willful submission to the naivety and innocence of The United States.
It's not the fault of the US, we can't re-examine our own failings because we commit none... Human Rights Laws are just antiquated.
No it is the fault of those who choose to criticize us, those who do not understand the world we live in post-9/11.
The US needs to get its head out from its own ass, the majority of the population in the US doesn't even know exactly where Iraq is on a map... or Iran.... or Vietnam...
Thanks hoseheads.
I beleive CBN is the Christian Broadcasting Network. They're part of the 700 club. edit
What? I went to the effort of learning your fucking language, and even spoke it to you in China of all places, and you hate on me because I'm American? I think the problem is in Europe, not America.
I used to love American action films (still do), my dad let me watch them but felt the need to balance me out with little historical tidbits. I vaugely remember getting told one about the US abandoning some freedom fighters while I was watching Rambo. I cant remember the details, but they were coaxed into rising up against their masters with the promise of US support which was withdrawn. They were pleading for help from the radio station as tanks burst through the walls. Pretty hard to reconcile that with what hollywood told me
In 1999 I was an avid Counter-strike player/mapper/modder and got to know allot of the boys on the forums quite well. The NRA came out with an ad which included a sound bite of some old tosser in Australia somewhere who had confronted a burglar.
"If I had a gun I would of shot im" - I laughed at how obviously misrepresentitive it was of Aussies and forgot about it. But in the forums all the gamers had rallied behind the ad. I posted a simple and clear message saying Australians almost all are anti-(personal) firearms. Well I got flamed like I have never experienced. People were telling me I was wrong, telling ME how Australians felt about gun control. All these regular guys I knew, suddenly turned utterly hardline. It was so weird and scary.
And then there is the religion thing: those stats about US views on evolution etc are scary.
But really, all these things are just dressing for the bigger worry, the extreme inward looking nature of huge, politically aligned swathes of the US population that give power to imperialistic policy. Thats it really. The French might get precious about the battle between French and American culture - but I think that is really a side issue.
It also serves a double purpose of implying that anyone in America who espouses those critiques of America are clearly un-American, and should be reviled and shunned.
George Bush:
"If you're not with us, you're against us."
Reason enough to invade every country in the world, then!
ShakaUVM - So you immediately assume that it's just 4 french people being rude and ignorant? I mean, french are rude and ignorant as a rule anyway! But it never once, for a single second, occured to you that they were snubbing you because of war-crazy, religious fanaticism topped with gun-(lack of)control, self righteousness and ego?
You think i say that to insult anyone? That's what people think dude........ Blame it on others if you like, but if i give people the impression that i'm an ignorant woman hating racist sexual predator pervert, then maybe that might just be a problem with how i present myself.
To semi-quote bill bailey, when i see a round of applause greeting a comment like "I don't know anything about iraq, but speaking as a mother, i know it's FULL OF TERRORISTS!", i despair for the american nationality. Obviously, that isn't a direct quote. But the amount of times i've seen americans applauding someone for saying something PRO-AMERICAN that is actually bullshit! It's just gotta sound right and the stupid majority will carry the unsure minority along in a wave of applause, leaving the few intelligent people remaining wondering why the fuck people are clapping. Happens here with comment voting as well. Say something intelligent and you might get a few votes. Say something pro-(anything american here), and you'll get 50. Say ANYTHING that even LOOKS anti-american and you get 5 downvotes. It'll happen with this comment too. People will read 2 lines and ignore the rest.
I appeal to the people on the sift that frequently floor me with the quality of their comments, please come and make a few choice observations over here. Even to prove me wrong! I just love hearing from you. And a lot of you are american
(PS. The true gold mine for me on this sift isn't in the comments that get upvoted, it's the ones that have buckets of quality and are ignored)
No way is this video not a spoof
If it isn't, then just wow. You could actually chalk this video down as "Why Europe hates America". It's virtually every reason mashed into one convenient short video!
I'm very European and I dislike America. When I meet individual Americans I have nothing against them as such, and most I meet are reasonable people, but I hate what America stands for. America was all about free and equal opportunities, freedom, democracy and all that. Now it's a neo-fascist state that hides its true face from the public. To quote Ron Paul (who quoted someone else that I don't remember the name of): "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in the flag an carrying a cross". That "when" has come and gone, and now America is draped in the flag and has the cross up its rear-end.
The decline of the US society is sad, but I hope that rock bottom has been hit, so you can restore yourselves to your former glory.
right where do i start, i know! so who here believes in the vid??? come on, hands up, show yourself. For the people who believe in the media, all i can say is that they have a clouded view on the images and belifs of other people, govs, etc.
In order not to be a narrow minded dum fuck, is by meeting all of the countrys people and looking at the views of the the single person but not the mass.
Ill break it down for you, religion thats a easy example. Right, so if you have christianity and islam, would you believe that they are rivals????? If you do think they are, then well done you have classed yourself as narrow minded.
Because i know some christians and some muslims, and i have asked each of them how do they free about the other and the result i got from them was a mix of they hate, dislike, fine with and love eachother.
Now if you say christianity is the US, and islam is europe, then im guessing you would get the same result....
now heres about the vid.
I think this vid maybe a anti-europe vid beacuse it is fed to people like swampgirl and Kreegath that are on the comments abover me.
cuz just look how they are reacting, i mean come on! its people like that, that give mankind a bad name. Those are the people that belong in the army because they are narrow minded, they are sheeps not leaders, they follow the line of food that is put infront of them. so if you believe in this vid and others like it then i have a question to put to you sifters
what are you, sheeps or leaders?
dannym3141-here, here, comment voting is sheit-I like upvoting comments, and down-voting them in a non-sequitous manner-
What am I?
Euro-mutt. Italian, French, English,some native American, some African, cause we in American alllll have black blood, so do most Europeans....
If this is CBN, then yes, this is real, in the sense that Robertson's reality or agenda is real-
The media is complicit in whatever views the brits have about America, and BBC is, for all it's worth, the same as most media organizations....judged and left wanting-
But the idea that Europeans hate Americans, is bullshit-most of the Brits I know love the shit outta me-individuals in GB that I might meet that hate me for being American are like any other ignorant fuckers-they knoe not why they hate-
and whoever said that French folks are rude, obnoxious..etc???.....Hell man, give em a break??!! (not you Brits, you got legit reasons)Just look at the bullshit they have had to deal with??-Any country that is as particular about the preservation of their language and culture, should be proud....and just a bit snotty about it-
America needs a coop something fierce-the world needs a coop from the folks who control the money-WE control the $$ in reality-The only reason people dislike one country or another is because of money....ideology runs a pathetic second to religion being used as a tool-POWER and knowledge are the only things that set you free, and right now, the world seems powerless against those who would use hate as a tool-
I'd like to see the Vatican pillaged, the entire population of Switzerland tried in the Hague, a moratorium on people being fucking idiots.
You're denouncing this news clip because of how unfair it would be for an entire society hating on another purely because of the ideology of its members. Yet every single day something is either posted about how if you believe in religion you're A: wrong, B: backwards.
The entirety of religious society is discarded here on the sift based on YOUR narrow minded viewpoints. And its hard to fathom that someone else can feel the same about your nation?
Sickening.
I'm an American. I studied French, and currently study Mandarin Chinese. While hiking for 10 miles along the Great Wall of China, I encountered a group of 4 French college students. I said hello in French. They asked, "Are you American?" When I said yes, they said, "I thought so. We could tell by your accent." And turned away and snubbed me.
What? I went to the effort of learning your fucking language, and even spoke it to you in China of all places, and you hate on me because I'm American? I think the problem is in Europe, not America.
Are you basing your views of Europe solely on 4 French students that you met one time in china?
Sure you can look at America and find the faults and expose it's mistakes. But seriously people if you think it's that bad here try living in India for two months. Take a trip to China, Congo, or Venezuela. Do that and then tell me how crappy your life is here in America, and how it's just terrible that you have clean water, and the roads are paved, and have a roof over your head with no holes in it. Come back and tell me what it's like to have sanitary conditions and freedom of speech.
If your an American and hate America, try getting out of the damn country and live in a less then privileged society. Tell me if you can still sit in front of your computer and rant about how you live in a toilet.
If your not American and hate America, why not see it for yourself? Try getting out of your country and experence life on the other side of the world. I guarantee you, you'll find that we're not all that different.
Hate is contradictory to peace. As long as you let other people tell you to hate others there will be no rest for this world that has seen so much blood shed.
I also heard they killed a whole bunch of indians over in whats that country called again!
One side of me wants to start a fight, and the other side wants to run away.
Screw you Europe, we saved your behind, and this is the respect we get? Shame.
We have prisons outside of our country so we don't have to treat the occupants like we would American prisoners. Thats a pretty big deal, and a terrible example for a nation that values human life to set.
Thankfully all of the Presidential front runners have said they will close Guantanamo (although McCain has said nothing about the other prisons; nobody has asked him).
However, that is the government's doing, and doesn't reflect what great people the majority of Americans are.
A government of the people, by the people, for the people? Not for a long time.
'Reporting' like this is one of the things that I hate about America.
another symptom of a much more dire problem, not limited to anything having to do with the Military, per-se....It's like this ya bleeding-hearts:
To be focus upon, and passionate about, some internment facility involved in nefarious goings-on, and not being able to recognize but a toenail of the hydra, because you are too robotic to be concerned about the heads(and I ain't talking about the bobble-heads that call themselves Presidents, Prime Ministers, dictators or Mullahs, either), is a reflection of their stranglehold on your sensibilities as they relate to $$$, and what drives this buggy...You Do!
*adjusts fur pajamas and throws plastic bottle in furnace
Bandaids on sucking chest wounds....Guantanamo is all in your minds, putties
I spend about an hour reading it.
Its about the worst political propaganda post you could imagine, all hailing king bush in his glory and the american way of bombing away evil.
After that i was so disgusted that i wrote david an email that no, i didnt hate america. Until i read his website, and his comment posters. And that i now wouldnt cry a tear after them if they went all to hell (which they actually seem to believe in).
They always talk about american imperialism, baby murdering soldiers in iraq, and other unbelievable bullshit as if thats the real USA.
I am extremely interested in this phenomenon, so I have researched quite a lot over the years. Heres what I learned:
Anti-Americanism was always present (since the USA was established). It just got suppressed by the cold war. Now that the war is over, everyone can voice their opinions freely again. And since so many east-europeans came over to the west it got worse too. Especially in germany its bad since it was the frontline of the cold war. Even our ruling chancellor is an ex-east-german. Germany is implementing more and more socialism into its system as we speak, and thats also a reason why we have so many problems here. The gap between rich and poor gets worse and worse, even though socialism is said to counter that. Not only that but our government starts to act like leaders of a socialism country. They ignore facts, they ignore their own laws, they decrease the rights of the people, they add new laws that could be from east germany and are only there to make more money, they simply only care for the rich people and themselves. But Im drifting away too much.
As I said anti americanism was always here in europe. Yes, Bush made it worse. But the stereotyping doesnt draw lines. Its not Bush or the government alone for these people, its the entire USA AND their allies. May it be polish, isrealis, whatever. If they are friends of the big bad USA, they are as bad.
Can you believe that some people want a strong european military to wipe america from the earth? They are actually afraid of america. They think america will invade europe some day. For oil of course.
Not all europeans think that way. Anti americanism was a minority before. Maybe peaked at 30%. Now its at about 60-70% because the media added so much to it. Thats frightening. But still its not all of europe. But this could be a horrible problem in the future when new generations that grew up with anti americanism fed to them start to show up in governments.
Some studies of several society-scientists I read claim that anti americanism very often comes hand in hand with anti semitism. Thats also very interesting, and fact is that I also noticed a huge increase in Israel bashing here in germany. Of course they dont admit that they are anti semitic (its criminal in germany to voice anti semitic opinions, so everyone watches what they say very carefully), but their comments show just that.
Ive also noticed that the poorer or less educated the person is, the higher is the chance that they are anti americans.
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And if you dont believe me, learn german (or use a free translator), visit german news sites which allow comments (stern.de, shortnews.de, and several others) and look for a headline thats about the USA. You wont believe your eyes (or your translator).
This movie may be a little overdone, but its not so far from the truth as you think.
The first 30 seconds of this video are great... I too could have sworn it was an american version of Brass Eye or The Day Today.
I'm glad that, unlike we europeans, americans are being fed a steady diet of truth about U.S.A!.. U.S.A!!.. U.S.A!!! woooo!
It's true that our media tells us that modern americans are taught they live in the greatest country in the world.. they ARE #1. Also, when they go to war, god is on their side...
Perhaps the similarity in their mass psyches is why 'america' fears the evil islamic countries..
(Warning: racism by generalisation of evil islamic countries) the same evil countries who purport that indeed, THEY are truely the best peoples in the whole world!.. and incidentally,... Allah is on their side!
Of course we all know that there are one or two americans who don't fit into the stereotype.. but what can we do? Humans like to generalise.. it's out of our hands.
But I bleat too much.
The interesting thing is it is not only from 'european' media (I mean, 'lies') that I get that image of 'american elitism' (as a whole)... I mainly get it from AMERICAN media (in terms of both support/ rejection) e.g. Simpsons.. Family Guy... the american NEWS... american daytime tv.. american latenight tv... american sports stars... the american government.. (oops!) ...the list is endless.
Do americans live in a 'Hypocrisy'...?
.. and you can't blame the French for their personalities.. it's the Toxoplasmosis talking (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis - they should eat less raw meat)
Also.. the whole "you'd be speaking german" thing is annoying. It seems to my brainwashed mind that for a long time, america was only interested in it's own politics, whilst the people of other nations were being killed in a large war of somekind... (a war which eventually became a 'World' war when the americans realised that 'The World Series' was not accurately named)
P.P.P.P.S. Actually I take it all back. I couldn't live without Denim Jeans.. God Bless America!
As far as I know, people in France doesn't hate America : They just don't give a shit about it !
And the WWII argument just began to piss me off : "If USA doesn't exists, France should have been in the Nazi's domination until the Red Army delivers those coward". We can play this game too. Without France, North America should be just another UK colony.
Total crap.
"Good job the Brits helped you out in Iraq eh? Otherwise you'd be pretty embarassed at doing another Vietnam!"
OH YES I WENT THERE
Anti-Americanism *> Hating the US population, wanting it to dissappear, wanting it to go away.
America is a country built on a ideas and ideals that have been stripped away in a mere 6 years, there was anti-Americanism before Bush but its only in this decade that we have seen a complete loss in confidence in the US foreign policy. However that does not mean people hate America implicitly, we still consume media from the US, it produces some of the best research and technological innovations, people still flock to it as a land of opportunity and for their education.
However liking America for those factors does not mean the rest of the world should simply agree to each and every course that the US takes. The worldwide protests against the War in Iraq showed this, they took place all over the world, within the US and outside of it.
The video tries to make it sound like Anti-Americanism is almost equal to wanting America to be destroyed. That's a stupid argument meant to degrade a rational argument to gut level emotions and wounded patriotism.
I mean how else do you get shit like French Fries being renamed as Freedom Fries as if an act like that is revolutionary. This is simply manipulation meant to create boundaries between dialog.
I'm part German and part French, the worst of both worlds.
One side of me wants to start a fight, and the other side wants to run away.
Screw you Europe, we saved your behind, and this is the respect we get? Shame.
We?
To quote Yatzhees comments in reply to comments made about his MOH airborne review.
"no you didn't fight in world war 2, all you did was make shitty posts like that one."
Your implying that the nature of states doesn't change and that the USA has always been and always while be the heroes that helped kick the Nazis in World wars 2, alot has changed since world war 2, and america is seen as no longer the land of the free, but more like the land of governmental heavy handed action, yes the USA assisted in world war 2, but I reserve the right to be angry when the leaders of the world invade a country with the contingency plan that pretty much consists of "iraq: lol", especially since in my country there was a majority against the war in iraq, but tony blair went to war anyway.
The allies started the contingency plan for Europe in 1941, the bush administration only started a contingency plan weeks before the invasion.
This is why I hate the america, not because of its perhaps ignorant people at times, not because of its fervent religious beliefs, not because of its supposed lack of culture, but because it tries to police the world, and ends up doing a sub par job of it.
I don't hate you or what your country stands for, I just hate the way that bush administration has governed.
I am german myself and have noticed the ever growing anti-americanism since 9/11.
Well you SHOULD have noticed that ALOT of europeans were behind the US after the attacks of 9/11. Why do you think the rush to war against the Taliban was even possible (including a REAL coalition)? But after that the US somehow managed to run all that new-found compassion right into the ground and turn it into spite.
They're gonna make Colbert jealous. He wish he had come up with something like that.
To stay on topic though, it is true that the European media in general have somewhat of an anti-American bias (beyond the Bush Is A Moron thing, that is), but it 's not as violent as the Euro-bashing you can find in the US. If you had, say, a French Bill O'Reilly rambling about 'cheeseburger-eating surrender yankees', he would most likely be fired on the spot. And US-bashing is not as deeply rooted as you think. If the US had, um, I don't know, a president named Hussein, this would change people's view pretty quickly.
That being said, the most effective anti-American propaganda weapon in Europe would have to be Fox News. Yep. Just show a few Fox clips to any European, tell them that this is the #1 news network in the US and voila, you got yourself a new America-basher.
Because the people living in a democratic country are responsible for their government and therefore what their country is doing. To me, everything America did after ending the Korean War and every President after Truman (except for Kennedy maybe) was one big mistake.
The problem is not that people are doing mistakes. I'm German, we are responsible for horrible mistakes in the past, so I know best. The problem is American people don't seem to learn from their mistakes. It's getting even worse.
STOP THE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES.
STOP VIOLATION OF GENEVA.
STOP TORTURING PEOPLE AND WATERBOARDING THEM.
CLOSE GUANTANAMO THE CESSPOOL EQUALED ONLY BY POL POT IN MODERN TIMES.
JAIL ALL WAR CRIMINALS.
Then the majority of these european criticisms go away.
The US has lost its way being led by warcriminals.
Why would the US invade Europe for oil?? Also there is no military capable of even a significant beachhead on US soil, let alone doing any real damage. You might be able to wipe the US military from other continents, but good luck trying to land in North America. Have you seen the military expenditures over the last 50 years? It would take the whole world combined, not just Europe.